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James Carville And The Politics Of Revenge

You’ve got to hand it to James Carville. The Ragin Cajun, as they used to call him knows how to make a mountain out of a mole hill, or as he might say, “go after the enemy till there’s nothing left.” He didn’t say that. I just thought that he might say it that way.

Carville became an icon after he helped elect Governor Bob Casey in 1986 with a guile and cunning rarely seen in politics. He’s a smart guy. He came into his own when he helped elect the 42nd President, William Jefferson Clinton. Carville is a take no prisoners kind of guy. I’ve seen him at work, and especially during the famous Bob Casey campaign, when his profanity-laden remarks were enough to make you try and keep his language away from babies and the faint-of-heart. As an analyst and Democratic provocateur, there is no one better.

I do believe that if the Kerry campaign had a true and passionate hired hand like Carville doing his magic in 2004, that Kerry would have won the campaign.

You see, Carville is just what the Dems need, a verbal assassin with the conviction to fight hard to the finish. There are no cotillion dances for James Carville. He will beat you, and after he beats you, he will try to crush you again.

There is one aspect of Carville that is amazing. He is fiercely loyal to his candidates.

In his most recent action. his passion got the best of him.

After New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson endorsed Barack Obama, Carville decided to try and level Richardson. He called him a Judas, referring him to Judas who sold out Christ, and he noted that this only fitting on Easter weekend. Carville believes that Richardson owes the Clintons for giving him two Cabinet positions.

In reality, Richardson was a star before the Clintons arrived on the scene.

If Hillary Clinton wins the nomination, she and Carville will need Richardson in their battle against John McCain.

Richardson, I am told, will not have anything to do with Carville.

Does that mean the Clintons would dump Carville, for awhile. And will he call them Judas’s for their lack of loyalty.

Frankly, I would want to have James Carville on my side. But he certainly has burned a bridge, wouldn’t you say?


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  1. Bake McBride's Afro
    March 26th, 2008 | 2:16 am

    Larry, Since this column sucks and has shown no sign of getting better, I have a prescription for you: my boot, taken rectally. Call me in the morning, son.

  2. Rick Madden
    March 26th, 2008 | 7:06 am

    Sounds like a half-baked solution, Bake.
    Carville is another get rich by politics guy that needs to keep his name afloat by leeching to the Clintons and making outrageous comments. He risks becoming totally irrelevant if he doesn’t.
    Apparently you sign a blood oath with the Clintons, like the mob. How dare Richardson jump off the gravy train?

  3. George
    March 26th, 2008 | 7:19 am

    My favorite James Carville line was in reference to Paula Jones, who accused and settled financially with Bill Cinton on a rape allegation; Carville said in reference to Paula Jones “when you drag a $100 bill through a trailer park you never know what your going to turn up”.

    Carville shooting his mouth off about Richardson just brings back a lot of creepy Clinton memories that really help Obama. No sane person want to go back to the 90s with the Clintons, most Americans prefer Recession, War ,and Home Forclosures over the Clintons, a sad commetary on Bill Clinton’s legacy, also no longer the first black president after November ‘08.

  4. jack russell
    March 26th, 2008 | 7:51 am

    hello Larry,James Carville is not working for the Clinton’s but has a loyalty to them,i think bill richardson’s goal in life is to be vice president,
    James Carville is a vicious loyal junk yard dog,i’ll take on my team anytime,now his wife Mary is the most bland boring talking head in politics but she must be a wildcat behind close doors,
    one other thing Larry,Hillary was asked about rev wright yesterday and she said she would have walked out on rev wright
    and said you can’t pick your relatives but you can pick your church and pastors’ i think most americans agree with that answer,
    and finally Larry,Chelsea Clinton was questioned at a campaign rally by a obama supporter with a question that was low class and below the belt and she handled like a well raised and highly educated young person with qualities to be a future leader,
    the personal attacks to family members have to stop.

  5. Ed
    March 26th, 2008 | 8:40 am

    Carville is a Democratic pimp if ever I saw one. He treats the people he “works” for as if they were prostitutes. He merely wants them to get a job so he can get a piece of the action. That kind of loyalty you can find on the streets around K&A in Philly or 13th and Locust or the Admiral Wilson Blvd in Jersey or the Darkened Streets of Atlantic City or in Paoli. That’s right Paoli PA has a prostitute ring which offers 49 year old hookers. Yeuck…!#%$. The cops nabbed the 49 year old in a down town Philly sting. She called James Carville for advice and he told her to say she needed extra cash to put her kids through college. The woman’s husband who happened to be Chester County’s head of Crisis Management (I kid you not) was unavailable for comment.
    When a 49 year old “upstanding” mother resorts to prostitution you know Carville and The Clintons had something to do with it. Society has turned into a cesspool where people like Carville reign supreme. The only face I dispise more than Carville’s is Osama BinLaden’s
    When fine human beings like jack russel heap praise on cock roaches like James Carville you know the end is near……

  6. Farfergnugen
    March 26th, 2008 | 8:41 am

    Jack Russell, Carville has been taking part in HRC strategy conference calls. You bet he’s working for the Clintons. You think they’re not going to consult him? The attack on Richardson is disgraceful. Funny that the Clintons were building him up until he endorsed Obama, and then they couldn’t tear him down quickly enough. I guess that’s what life under sniper fire is like, though.

  7. March 26th, 2008 | 11:22 am

    Chelsea Clinton has as much experience in the White House as Hillary does. In 12 years, she’ll be primed.

  8. Bake McBride's Afro
    March 26th, 2008 | 12:29 pm

    Rick, I know it’s dangerous to share prescriptions, but the above dosage should work for you too.

  9. Christines
    March 26th, 2008 | 4:04 pm

    Obama is fiercely loyal to Wright!
    What was jolting for many whites wasn’t that Wright has a following—to each his own—but that Obama, a man who intends to lead an entire country, found a home among the pews of Wright’s church. That Obama eventually distanced himself from some of Wright’s rhetoric only raises the second question: What took so long?

    How can anyone sit in a church where the minister says, for instance, that the U.S. government invented the AIDS virus to kill blacks? Obama may have been too young or too naive at some point along his 20-year relationship with Wright, but eventually, shouldn’t the man who became an Illinois state senator and then a U.S. senator and then a presidential contender have spoken up before he was forced to?

  10. pat's brother
    March 26th, 2008 | 5:26 pm

    If i lived next door to Carville it would be like living next to a pile of excrement left behind by a herd of cows that had a bad case of diarrhea. If human life had a scale of 1 to 10 Carville would fall somewhere between minus 5 and minus 6. The man has no conscience. His only reason for existing is to create havoc and and find employment for those of his ilk. How he managed to slip out of a human uterus escapes me. Only Larry would give a guy like this props for being good at what he does. Larry you have hit a new low.

  11. pat
    March 26th, 2008 | 5:48 pm

    larry,the operative word in your whole column was loyal,yes carville is loyal,that is something the democratics fail to understand,you give your word or pledge and then they can count on you.
    It’s not that way any longer,it’s whats in it for me?What did obama promise richardson,VP?Sec.of State? Richardson came to the highest bidder,he takes care of himself.He is a disappointment to me just like the rest,kennedy,kerry,et al. They didn’t mind using bill clinton when they needed him,then jumped ship when the shoe was on the other foot.By the way,pats brother is no relation,my brothers are all dead.

  12. Lisa
    March 26th, 2008 | 5:56 pm

    Bill Richardson made his endorsement on principles. Something the Carvilles and the Clintons of the world know nothing about. Carville is an expert at figuring out the buttons to push. Clintons are experts at pushing them. Re-writes of history and truth are nothing for them because they have the attitude that “those ignorant, hardworking, uneducated voters” in Ohio and Pennsylvania can’t figure out the internet and have no knowledge or memory of the FACTS about who supported NAFTA, or the FACT that Chris Dodd was the sponsor of the S-CHIP bill, and the FACT that the Family Medical Leave Act had already worked its way through Congress and Bill only had to sign it 16 days after he took office. Bosnia isn’t Hillary’s only big lie. But Carville and the Clintons are veteran campaigners - they know how to work a crowd, to sound convincing and look like they care, and sound extremely self-righteous as they attack their opponent.

    I’m tired of the drama already - and she’s not even in the White House.

  13. Al Gore
    March 26th, 2008 | 6:26 pm

    First of all pat you confuse loyalty with expediency. The Reps would never use the service of James Carville.
    As for you lisa, amen, the Clinton chickens are coming home to roost. Their perception of the everyday American has missed the mark of their low expectations. We now can see her for what she really is, with or without Carville. The problem is the Democrats lack a legitimate candidate for president.

  14. jack russell
    March 26th, 2008 | 6:29 pm

    Larry,i thought i was watching SNL with bill richardson on the stage with that blue jacket and tan pants and that silly beard (i quess that is to draw the hispanic vote),all we need is obama to grow a Abe Lincoln beard and have pipe hanging out of his mouth and that should wrap up the election.

  15. Rick Madden
    March 26th, 2008 | 8:29 pm

    Bake, ouch buddy, that heard.
    JR, you are pulling the same tactic as the Clintons: change the topic. Won’t work for you either.
    Christines, you are killing us with the cut&pastes. Go away quietly or Bake is going to get medieval on you.
    Al Gore, you’re out of the ozone and back the real world. Welcome back!

  16. Rick Madden
    March 26th, 2008 | 8:29 pm

    hurt

  17. Joe
    March 27th, 2008 | 7:40 am

    If James Carville were a Republican, Larry and the rest of the Democrat-Media Complex would be telling us what a “mean extreme right wing partisan” he is.

    But since he’s a mean extreme left wing partisan Democrat, he’s just peachy.

  18. March 27th, 2008 | 8:56 am

    Joe,
    Carville’s wife and Karl Rove are the Republican reps for this sort of work.
    Just and FYI

  19. jack russell
    March 27th, 2008 | 9:36 am

    rick,
    while you are sitting back and laughing at Hillary smack Obama around,you should look at your own candidate John Mccain he is not a ligitimate candidate, maybe eight years ago but not now,
    by the way,the that great humanitarian rev wright’s comments about italians have just been reported, my grandmother is italian and i will not throw my grandmother under the bus to the help the Obama democrats in the fall,it’s Hillary or the highway.

  20. MCaesar
    March 27th, 2008 | 1:09 pm

    Hillary needs to give it up. It is all over for her

    “(CNN) – The increasingly charged Democratic race for the White House appears to be hurting Hillary Clinton significantly more than Barack Obama, a just-released poll suggests.

    According to a new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll, the New York senator’s personal approval rating has dropped markedly, and those that hold a negative view of her have reached 48 percent — the highest in that poll since March 2001. Just 37 percent now have a positive view of Clinton — down from 45 percent two weeks ago.

    The new poll comes at the end of one of the most hostile months in the Democratic presidential primary race, during which surrogates for both campaigns resigned after uttering controversial statements, and controversy swirled around Obama over past statements by his former pastor, Jeremiah Wright.

    But despite fears by some of Obama’s backers that the Wright controversy would take a toll on the Illinois senator and his presidential hopes, the new poll shows his approval rating has remained virtually unchanged at 49 percent. Only 32 percent of Americans give him a negative approval rating.
    Meanwhile, in head-to-head matchups Clinton and Obama remain deadlocked for the nomination, each drawing 45 percent among Democratic voters. Both are also statistically tied with John McCain in matchups: Clinton is two points behind the Arizona senator while Obama is two points ahead — both within the poll’s margin of error of 4 percentage points.

  21. MCaesar
    March 27th, 2008 | 3:19 pm

    Poll: Obama stronger than Clinton in California
    Posted: 09:45 AM ET
    (CNN) – Hillary Clinton’s argument that she is the Democratic contender best-equipped to win the “big states” the party needs to capture the White House took a slight hit Thursday with the release of a new survey that seems to suggest Barack Obama is better-positioned to win California – a state where she won last month’s primary contest.

    A new poll by the Public Policy Institute of California indicates if the election were held today, Obama would hold a 49-40 percent advantage over McCain in a hypothetical fall matchup there. Clinton’s 43-40 percent edge over McCain falls just outside the survey’s margin of error. Fifty-seven percent of independent voters in the state have a favorable view of Obama, while just 35 percent say they like Clinton.

    The survey of 2,002 California voters was conducted by telephone from March 11-18, and has a margin of error of plus or minus two percentage points.

    – CNN’s Jeff Simon

  22. Al
    March 27th, 2008 | 5:02 pm

    MCaesar I have a crazy uncle and he is part of my family and we love him dearly for many many years. The thing is, I don’t sit there and listen to his rantings. Neither does my wife and my children.

  23. George
    March 27th, 2008 | 6:02 pm

    MCaesar is not a crazy uncle, but rather a well informed uncle who is passionate about his candidate, but sometimes he goes on a little too long and the kids roll their eyes, but deep down they love him and pretend they don’t notice he sometimes drinks too much and smells a little musty.

  24. good ol boy
    March 27th, 2008 | 6:13 pm

    that goddarn Jack Russell is still at it,Larry I thought you were going to’get rid’of him,he’s always barking,,he barks at Barrack Obama like he’s the darn Mailman,,he’s like a four legged James Carville-with hair,,the democrats can’t have that endless barking it’s not american,what about those limousine liberals they want peace and quiet while they are drinking their cafe lattes,they don’t want trouble making radical dog barking names at them all day & night long,Larry you got to do something you’re part of the media you don’t want the democrats to have any conflict in the party,that darn Jack Russell would never last in my neck of the woods.

  25. Rick Madden
    March 27th, 2008 | 6:45 pm

    JR, I’m not crazy about McCain. I’ll have a hard time voting for him. He’s too liberal, too old and doesn’t get it.
    I’ll close my eyes, vote for him and keep my fingers crossed. I hope he picks Romney as his VP. I’d have something to vote for.
    That being said, what are you Dems going to do. You lose either way. Hillary is a serial lier that is losing even her strongest supporters. And Obama with his crazy uncle Rev Wright. Let’s hope they continue to implode.

  26. Juno the Beagle
    March 27th, 2008 | 7:12 pm

    JR is still pissed I won at Westminster!

  27. Al
    March 27th, 2008 | 7:46 pm

    Rick, do you think Larry could teach McCain how to read off a teleprompter?
    I mean it can’t be THAT hard. Can it?

  28. Rick Madden
    March 27th, 2008 | 10:02 pm

    First of all, no one can teach McCain anything.
    Secondly, Larry has been AWOL for over a month now. Al Gore returned last night. Let’s hope Larry returns soon.

  29. Christines
    March 27th, 2008 | 10:45 pm

    Talk about liar !

    March 25, 2008

    Obama Took Credit for Other Senators’ Work, Media Largely Ignores it

    by D. Cupples | Understandably, many media are all over Hillary Clinton’s exaggerated claims about her trip to Bosnia in 1996 (e.g., NY Times)

    At the same time, most media seem oddly unaware of a story in yesterday’s Washington Post about Barack Obama’s having falsely grabbed credit for other legislators’ work — not just in the Illinois legislature, but also while in the U.S. Senate.

    In April 2006, according to the Washington Post, six senators ran into Obama while heading to a news conference to announce an immigration bill. Obama tagged along. When the microphone came his way, Obama said:

    “‘I want to cite Lindsey Graham, Sam Brownback, Mel Martinez, Ken Salazar, myself, Dick Durbin, Joe Lieberman . . . who’ve actually had to wake up early to try to hammer this stuff out,’” (The Post)

    Senate staff members found it a “galling moment,” because Obama had done little or no heavy lifting on that project.

  30. Rick Madden
    March 27th, 2008 | 10:52 pm

    Christines - the two headed cut&paster from the Clinton camp. Please cease and desist. No one is buying that bunk anymore. You’re wasting our time.

  31. Farfergnugen
    March 27th, 2008 | 10:53 pm

    Christines, would that be the same Hillary Clinton who is spreading propaganda from Richard Scaife about McPeak in order to smear that four-star general as an anti-semite and a drunk? It is? She’s part of the right wing noise machine!

  32. March 27th, 2008 | 11:09 pm

    Larry here. AWOL? Are you awake . Rick– I am hear and ready.

    And I am thrilled that the “edge ” is still hear. The letters are great, the spirit is great and Clinton-Obama is the hottest story in decades.

    PS–too much “smear” in this campaign.

    Smear and attack = fewer voters.

  33. Rick Madden
    March 28th, 2008 | 5:34 am

    Larry (or imposter) that’s here, not hear. To real Larry, come back.

  34. Dave
    March 28th, 2008 | 8:07 am

    I was just thinking (which is always a bad thing for the Obamamaniacs out there)..

    Let’s go back to 9/16/01, 5 short days after 9/11…..

    The country has just had the worst attack on her soil in history….3,000+ dead….our World Trade Centers, symbols of America’s greatness, have been destroyed…there is still a search going on for survivors and victims….
    and down at Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, a churchgoer would hear…

    “We bombed Hiroshima. We bombed Nagasaki. And we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye. We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans and now we are indignant, because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back into our own front yards. America’s chickens are coming home to roost!”

    The way this is delivered is the kind of indignant, I told you so, you deserve it, vindictive voice that the schoolyard bully would use….Nah, nah, you skinned your knee!….throw in a little break-dancing moves, a little 360, around-the-world dance to put an exclamation point on the whole sordid affair…

    Amid cheering, back-slapping, and wild delirium, the congregation voices its approval….Where is the solemn talk of the tragedy, of the victims, of the hardships faced by widow, widowers, children who lost a parent?….of parents losing their children?…where is the vile directed at America’s enemies who perpetrated this crime? Nowhere to be found….

    And where was little Barack Hussein Obama? He wasn’t a US Senator at this time. He had no reason to be outside of Illinois. Was he at church that day? He says no…and of course we believe him! We give him the benefit of the doubt, right Larry,(and please pass the kool-aid!). Regardless, I am certain that he know of Rev Bigot’s sermon…. why didn’t he vigorously denounce it at that time? Why didn’t he leave this racist church immediately?

    Obama supporters say we take the good Rev Wright’s sermons out of context….well here is the context that we should put the GD America speech in….

    At the nation’s most vulnerable time…at the time when our great country had been subjected to unspeakable evil…Osama Obama’s pastor, his spiritual mentor, felt the need to throw gasoline on the fire…to besmirch the memory of those who perished.
    And Barry Obama (that is what they called in private school in Hawaii) felt the need to say or do nothing….

    IT IS NOT F’ING RACE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HERE, IT IS JUDGEMENT. HE SHOWED THE ABSOLUTE WORST JUDGEMENT IN THE FACE OF OPPRESSION DIRECTED AGAINST OUR COUNTRY. WHAT DOES THAT SAY ABOUT HOW HE WOULD HANDLE A CRISIS AS A PRESIDENT?

    He is unelectable. Get out of the race now, liar!

  35. atp2007
    March 31st, 2008 | 12:17 pm

    Watching Carville on CNN, yelling to Spizer not to resign was really pathetic and an embarassment for the party. It really showed that he has no morals or character and that nothing is more important to him than power and winning. He works for the right people (the Clintons) and can live with his wife because they are just different sides of the same coin, the amoral political elite.

  36. atp2007
    March 31st, 2008 | 12:22 pm

    P.S. If you listen to the whole of the speech that Wright gave mentioning the Sept 11th attack, you would find that he specifically says he is quoting from a white man, a former State Department official. White guy says it, black guy repeats it, and the black guy gets crucified. P.P.S. if you substitute “syphilis” for “AIDS” in Wright’s speech about conspiracies, even the federal government acknowledges that it experimented with giving blacks the disease and then not treating it.

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