Comments on: Nuttermania in Philadelphia – Near Tears in New Hampshire – New Beginnings and The Beginning Of An End? http://www.larrykane.com/2008/01/07/nuttermania-in-philadelphia-near-tears-in-new-hampshire-new-beginnings-and-the-beginning-of-and-end/ LarryKane.com Sun, 12 Dec 2010 22:25:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: jack russell http://www.larrykane.com/2008/01/07/nuttermania-in-philadelphia-near-tears-in-new-hampshire-new-beginnings-and-the-beginning-of-and-end/comment-page-1/#comment-5219 jack russell Wed, 09 Jan 2008 05:23:58 +0000 http://www.larrykane.com/2008/01/07/nuttermania-in-philadelphia-near-tears-in-new-hampshire-new-beginnings-and-the-beginning-of-and-end/#comment-5219 to Kem,Mike,Caesar,Ed,boy i am glad i did not take your expert advice about Hillary Clinton,all your attacks and nasty comments almost swayed me,but i am glad i stuck to my gut feeling. who are you losers going to crow about know o'bama is a weak canidate and is the opponent that the republican rightwingers want to run at.so whoever you guys endorse please just stay away from Hillary!!! thanks larry, good luck and god bless to Kem,Mike,Caesar,Ed,boy i am glad i did not take your expert advice about Hillary Clinton,all your attacks and nasty comments almost swayed me,but i am glad i stuck to my gut feeling.
who are you losers going to crow about know o’bama is a weak canidate and is the opponent that the republican rightwingers want to run at.so whoever you guys endorse please just stay away from Hillary!!!
thanks larry, good luck and god bless

]]> By: Ed http://www.larrykane.com/2008/01/07/nuttermania-in-philadelphia-near-tears-in-new-hampshire-new-beginnings-and-the-beginning-of-and-end/comment-page-1/#comment-5218 Ed Wed, 09 Jan 2008 03:48:18 +0000 http://www.larrykane.com/2008/01/07/nuttermania-in-philadelphia-near-tears-in-new-hampshire-new-beginnings-and-the-beginning-of-and-end/#comment-5218 Hey KEM thanks for chiming in. This discussion should be about how to bring a new view to the people. Not "business as usual" but a new understanding of where we should align ourselves. It's so obvious that the citizens of Philadelphia are entrapped in the Democratic process that the idea of an alternative political party is out of the question. If the people only knew how important their vote was than maybe we could resolve their problems. The reality is personal responsibility. If you are not prepared to take accountability for your actions than you are not prepared to be a citizen. Hey KEM thanks for chiming in. This discussion should be about how to bring a new view to the people. Not “business as usual” but a new understanding of where we should align ourselves. It’s so obvious that the citizens of Philadelphia are entrapped in the Democratic process that the idea of an alternative political party is out of the question. If the people only knew how important their vote was than maybe we could resolve their problems. The reality is personal responsibility. If you are not prepared to take accountability for your actions than you are not prepared to be a citizen.

]]> By: KEM http://www.larrykane.com/2008/01/07/nuttermania-in-philadelphia-near-tears-in-new-hampshire-new-beginnings-and-the-beginning-of-and-end/comment-page-1/#comment-5217 KEM Wed, 09 Jan 2008 02:50:51 +0000 http://www.larrykane.com/2008/01/07/nuttermania-in-philadelphia-near-tears-in-new-hampshire-new-beginnings-and-the-beginning-of-and-end/#comment-5217 Perhaps we must start forcing the specific entities we fund to reveal how they are servicing our city and the surrounding communities and whether those strategies are correct. Why wait for the government to pressure them, conduct studies, or whatever? We ARE the government. When SEPTA, PGW or such outfits claim they need more money, where are the intelligent citizenry to support or counter their claims? For those who do show up, how can they become more effective fighters? Why isn't accurate data properly distributed so as to impact the proper outcome? We must go after the machine's particular parts directly, forcefully, and intelligently. Going after specific parts, one-by-one, makes the broader battle more manageable. Then we must inform those who will back us in prompting a change. We must preserve and publicly post good data so as to avoid conflict and confusion. Bottom line, I believe that this is a structural rather than a citizen-on-citizen problem. Why not join the mayor who is clearly in the mood to duke it out with 'business as usual"? By joining the battle we best position ourselves to keeping the movement honest and sustained. Perhaps we must start forcing the specific entities we fund to reveal how they are servicing our city and the surrounding communities and whether those strategies are correct. Why wait for the government to pressure them, conduct studies, or whatever? We ARE the government.

When SEPTA, PGW or such outfits claim they need more money, where are the intelligent citizenry to support or counter their claims? For those who do show up, how can they become more effective fighters? Why isn’t accurate data properly distributed so as to impact the proper outcome?

We must go after the machine’s particular parts directly, forcefully, and intelligently. Going after specific parts, one-by-one, makes the broader battle more manageable. Then we must inform those who will back us in prompting a change. We must preserve and publicly post good data so as to avoid conflict and confusion.

Bottom line, I believe that this is a structural rather than a citizen-on-citizen problem. Why not join the mayor who is clearly in the mood to duke it out with ‘business as usual”? By joining the battle we best position ourselves to keeping the movement honest and sustained.

]]> By: Ed http://www.larrykane.com/2008/01/07/nuttermania-in-philadelphia-near-tears-in-new-hampshire-new-beginnings-and-the-beginning-of-and-end/comment-page-1/#comment-5216 Ed Wed, 09 Jan 2008 01:39:49 +0000 http://www.larrykane.com/2008/01/07/nuttermania-in-philadelphia-near-tears-in-new-hampshire-new-beginnings-and-the-beginning-of-and-end/#comment-5216 With all due respect to KEM I must address the statement made by Annie. "Well-heeled suburbans" can make their income anywhere. It's tax incentives that brought major corporations into the city. In reality we don't need Philadelphia for anything. Philadelphia needs us. If Philadelphia was such a great place why is it losing residents over the years? Annie you're right in the fact that Philly offers culture and the Arts. They also have great commutes throughout the city. But unless you have been to Chicago you will never know how bad and uninviting Philly is. Their population seems to "get it" while the constituents of Philly are stuck in the '60s. Their mind set is a complete reflection of the leadership that controls the city. Until this old school mentality is replaced I'm afraid it's going to be business as usual. With all due respect to KEM I must address the statement made by Annie. “Well-heeled suburbans” can make their income anywhere. It’s tax incentives that brought major corporations into the city. In reality we don’t need Philadelphia for anything. Philadelphia needs us. If Philadelphia was such a great place why is it losing residents over the years? Annie you’re right in the fact that Philly offers culture and the Arts. They also have great commutes throughout the city.
But unless you have been to Chicago you will never know how bad and uninviting Philly is. Their population seems to “get it” while the constituents of Philly are stuck in the ’60s. Their mind set is a complete reflection of the leadership that controls the city. Until this old school mentality is replaced I’m afraid it’s going to be business as usual.

]]> By: MCaesar http://www.larrykane.com/2008/01/07/nuttermania-in-philadelphia-near-tears-in-new-hampshire-new-beginnings-and-the-beginning-of-and-end/comment-page-1/#comment-5215 MCaesar Wed, 09 Jan 2008 01:04:11 +0000 http://www.larrykane.com/2008/01/07/nuttermania-in-philadelphia-near-tears-in-new-hampshire-new-beginnings-and-the-beginning-of-and-end/#comment-5215 Annie thanks for setting things straight. SEPTA makes money in the city and loses money in the suburbs. Also, I get tired of hearing well-off people complaining about the "drain" from poor or unemployed people. If you think it is so easy being poor then try it. Divisiveness never gets us anywhere as a people. Nutter and Obama want to lead us together as a people. Annie thanks for setting things straight.

SEPTA makes money in the city and loses money in the suburbs.

Also, I get tired of hearing well-off people complaining about the “drain” from poor or unemployed people. If you think it is so easy being poor then try it.

Divisiveness never gets us anywhere as a people. Nutter and Obama want to lead us together as a people.

]]> By: jack russell http://www.larrykane.com/2008/01/07/nuttermania-in-philadelphia-near-tears-in-new-hampshire-new-beginnings-and-the-beginning-of-and-end/comment-page-1/#comment-5213 jack russell Tue, 08 Jan 2008 22:36:15 +0000 http://www.larrykane.com/2008/01/07/nuttermania-in-philadelphia-near-tears-in-new-hampshire-new-beginnings-and-the-beginning-of-and-end/#comment-5213 to Annie: well said!! to Annie:
well said!!

]]> By: Annie http://www.larrykane.com/2008/01/07/nuttermania-in-philadelphia-near-tears-in-new-hampshire-new-beginnings-and-the-beginning-of-and-end/comment-page-1/#comment-5212 Annie Tue, 08 Jan 2008 22:04:34 +0000 http://www.larrykane.com/2008/01/07/nuttermania-in-philadelphia-near-tears-in-new-hampshire-new-beginnings-and-the-beginning-of-and-end/#comment-5212 What do you mean Septa "primarily serves Philly". It brings in well-heeled white suburbanite professionals who are happy to make their fortune in the city but couldn't bear to live there, and resent paying tax dollars to have trash picked up off the streets, parking regulations enforced so they can park their BMWs on those days they dare to drive them into the city. Do you work in the city? I hope not, since you obviously have no need for it. Do you attend plays, movies, go to restaurants in the city? I guess not. Do you drive through it on your way to the shore? And if you don't live in the city you don't get your fuel from PGW. If you DO live in the city... well you get a lot more services than the typical suburbanite and ought to be ashamed of yourself. Can you run your household with no income? Neither can a city. The western PA-focussed state government already diverts money from this region- yes this is a metropolitan REGION that should be living symbiotically- to other counties when this city primarily but also Pittsburgh bring in tuition-paying students, developers, businesses and other money-generators for the state. What do you mean Septa “primarily serves Philly”. It brings in well-heeled white suburbanite professionals who are happy to make their fortune in the city but couldn’t bear to live there, and resent paying tax dollars to have trash picked up off the streets, parking regulations enforced so they can park their BMWs on those days they dare to drive them into the city. Do you work in the city? I hope not, since you obviously have no need for it. Do you attend plays, movies, go to restaurants in the city? I guess not. Do you drive through it on your way to the shore? And if you don’t live in the city you don’t get your fuel from PGW. If you DO live in the city… well you get a lot more services than the typical suburbanite and ought to be ashamed of yourself. Can you run your household with no income? Neither can a city. The western PA-focussed state government already diverts money from this region- yes this is a metropolitan REGION that should be living symbiotically- to other counties when this city primarily but also Pittsburgh bring in tuition-paying students, developers, businesses and other money-generators for the state.

]]> By: Mike http://www.larrykane.com/2008/01/07/nuttermania-in-philadelphia-near-tears-in-new-hampshire-new-beginnings-and-the-beginning-of-and-end/comment-page-1/#comment-5211 Mike Tue, 08 Jan 2008 21:47:38 +0000 http://www.larrykane.com/2008/01/07/nuttermania-in-philadelphia-near-tears-in-new-hampshire-new-beginnings-and-the-beginning-of-and-end/#comment-5211 I hear ya Ed.... Love paying more for registrations, inspections, tolls and so on just to fund SEPTA, which primarily serves Philly. You know Squintz the Highway funds that were paid by all taxpayers to prop up SEPTA, and then there is the joke of PGW, which I'm sure we'll all end up bailing out when the gov't forces PECO to merge with them, so we can all pay for Philly people who don't pay their utility bills. Face it, the city is a "Money-Pit", I really hope there is change, but I also heard the same tired ole crap when Street was first elected, lets hold back the Kudos until he has actually done something LK. Hey JR, what about that little emotional plea from the "unbeatable" Clinton?????? I hear ya Ed…. Love paying more for registrations, inspections, tolls and so on just to fund SEPTA, which primarily serves Philly. You know Squintz the Highway funds that were paid by all taxpayers to prop up SEPTA, and then there is the joke of PGW, which I’m sure we’ll all end up bailing out when the gov’t forces PECO to merge with them, so we can all pay for Philly people who don’t pay their utility bills.

Face it, the city is a “Money-Pit”, I really hope there is change, but I also heard the same tired ole crap when Street was first elected, lets hold back the Kudos until he has actually done something LK.

Hey JR, what about that little emotional plea from the “unbeatable” Clinton??????

]]> By: squintz http://www.larrykane.com/2008/01/07/nuttermania-in-philadelphia-near-tears-in-new-hampshire-new-beginnings-and-the-beginning-of-and-end/comment-page-1/#comment-5210 squintz Tue, 08 Jan 2008 20:56:06 +0000 http://www.larrykane.com/2008/01/07/nuttermania-in-philadelphia-near-tears-in-new-hampshire-new-beginnings-and-the-beginning-of-and-end/#comment-5210 Ed - not sure, but if you're paying taxes to Philadelphia, isn't it your city too? And what is it we should all be so damned grateful to you for? Ed – not sure, but if you’re paying taxes to Philadelphia, isn’t it your city too? And what is it we should all be so damned grateful to you for?

]]> By: KEM http://www.larrykane.com/2008/01/07/nuttermania-in-philadelphia-near-tears-in-new-hampshire-new-beginnings-and-the-beginning-of-and-end/comment-page-1/#comment-5209 KEM Tue, 08 Jan 2008 20:46:54 +0000 http://www.larrykane.com/2008/01/07/nuttermania-in-philadelphia-near-tears-in-new-hampshire-new-beginnings-and-the-beginning-of-and-end/#comment-5209 I feel your pain, Ed (not Rendell, I'm sure), but if we can get more jobs to more people, then good folks like you, with such a heavy burden, won't have to prop up anybody as much as you do now. Taxes are a part of our society, unemployment is bad too, but trust me, I see your point. I will personally do my best to help bring more jobs to Philadelphia for the sake of the unemployed AND the employed. You are not forgotten nor unappreciated!!! Unemployment is horrible for everyone. I often look at the types of foolishness that went on in the classrooms during my middle and high school years and get fumed that those foolish actors are now unemployed. They got their first break by being in a "free" school system only to squander the chance at success. Then, those who become felons are getting a boost for employment due to the 10K tax incentive offered to business to hire them. In that sense, those of us who studied and graduated lose ground to them because nobody gets a 10k incentive to hire us. Trust me, I feel you, Ed. At the same time, I understand that not "propping up" the weaker pillars and showing them how to make that responsible transition to self-help, which they should have figured out by now, only makes the city, and the surrounding areas much worse. As I have said, I will do my part to remedy this problem even though I am not a city official. Ed, our new mayor is going to be good for you and me too. I feel your pain, Ed (not Rendell, I’m sure), but if we can get more jobs to more people, then good folks like you, with such a heavy burden, won’t have to prop up anybody as much as you do now. Taxes are a part of our society, unemployment is bad too, but trust me, I see your point. I will personally do my best to help bring more jobs to Philadelphia for the sake of the unemployed AND the employed. You are not forgotten nor unappreciated!!!

Unemployment is horrible for everyone. I often look at the types of foolishness that went on in the classrooms during my middle and high school years and get fumed that those foolish actors are now unemployed.

They got their first break by being in a “free” school system only to squander the chance at success. Then, those who become felons are getting a boost for employment due to the 10K tax incentive offered to business to hire them.

In that sense, those of us who studied and graduated lose ground to them because nobody gets a 10k incentive to hire us. Trust me, I feel you, Ed.

At the same time, I understand that not “propping up” the weaker pillars and showing them how to make that responsible transition to self-help, which they should have figured out by now, only makes the city, and the surrounding areas much worse. As I have said, I will do my part to remedy this problem even though I am not a city official.

Ed, our new mayor is going to be good for you and me too.

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